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Old 05-12-2014, 11:32 PM   #1
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So it has been a second since I've gotten dirty with my e30. But now I'm feeling that BMW sickness creep back up and things seem to be falling into place once again for me and my e30 iX. Brief history, I got my 1989 325iX as an auto, in mid 2008, with no reverse and limited life left in any forward gears, for only $1100. (Turned out to be about 8,000 miles before the tranny quit altogether.) Miraculously, I stumbled upon a complete iX 5-speed car in my neighbors back yard, a couple blocks down from me, just weeks before the trans went out. Got the whole car for $400! And get this, they had parked it 6 years earlier because the gas tank had rusted through. It was parked in running and driving condition and hadn't moved it since. It even came with a brand new gas tank, still in the box, just chillin in the back seat. (some people? lol) (oh yeah, and cardinal red sport interior!)

It's now early 2009, just graduated high school: After using a large chunk of my high school graduation money I went through the motor and replaced all gaskets, (minus headgasket), did the t-belt, water pump, etc, and completed the 5-speed transmission swap, new tires, and new suspension bushings. Couldn't have asked for anything more at that time. A couple months later, after about 15,000 miles of burning through my new set of tires, I got stuck in some snow and overheated because my fan clutch had failed. Long in the short, the head gasket started leaking (oil+coolant both ways). I continued to drive her with plans to do a full rebuild when I was ready, until the (cheap POS) ebay "stage 2" clutch went out. Shortly after that, I lost my license because my favorite time is "4:20" and Michigan see's any marijuana offence as a OWI-DUI. So into the barn she went, where she has sat for about the last 4 years.

I have since moved into a 1992 Lexus SC400 and 1989 Toyota 4Runner. I had the e30 for sale for a while with no motivation to sell, so it never sold. It's been sitting in my barn since. However, I have recently acquired a 1996 328iA with the M52B28 motor that has resparked my e30 fever and have begun prep for the motor swap. After doing some research, it looks like this is going to be a long and involved swap but I'm still young and have the time, just not as much $$$ as I would like, haha. Anyway, I plan to document and photograph the total procedure in this thread and hopefully a few moths down the road I'll be driving an M52 powered 1989 328iX!

Advice, tips, words of encouragement, etc are all appreciated. I will get more into the details of the swap (parts, etc) as I get there. For now I'll leave you with some pictures of my baby. Sadly the only picture I have of her when she was really nice is my sig. As you can see, she slowly got beat and raped by yours truly, until she was blown out and worn out. She will live again!




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Old 05-15-2014, 10:22 AM   #2
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It would be MUCH easier/ cheap to build that M20 to have M52 power. M5x swaps into iX's are a lot more complicated than people give credit. N/A M20 builds are reaching 300RWHP, and with your m52 crank, rods, and pistons (shaved and notched) you could have 250 to the wheels fairly easily.

With M5x swaps, transmission/tcase angle is different, and the front driveshaft has to be in perfect alignment both vertically and laterally within 2 degrees or so of the front diff. In addition, you would have to build a custom oil pan, and make sure the axles are in correct alignment with the hubs through the suspension travel or you could run into broken CVs and torque steer.

All in all there are many more documented M20 builds than there are SUCCESSFUL M5x swaps for the iX.
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Old 05-19-2014, 10:14 AM   #3
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this forum is basically dead, but there's a whole long post on 24v swaps into an ix. I'm not sure you know what you're getting into.

FYI, I've been piecing together my own swap since 2011. maybe by 2015 or 2016 I'll be ready to pick up a motor. this is not a weekend project by any means.

the easiest is the frankenpan method using the E30 ix oil pan, diff, and transmission. There are a lot of drawbacks to this that you'll have to live with, brake booster clearance, weak front diff, etc. etc. personally I don't think a frankenpan swap is worth the effort - I'd rather just build an M20. there's nothing especially exciting about an M52 swap, you're talking about a huge level of effort for maybe 30 more HP.

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Old 05-21-2014, 02:03 PM   #4
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This thread, specifically: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=308093
I have not been updating the thread on this site.

The basic thing we just found out is this:
NONE of the AWD 24V oil pans (E34, E46 or E53) fit into the E30 body. This leads to extreme measures such as FrankenPan or, in my case, designing and building a new crossmember (and control arms) from scratch.
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Old 10-13-2014, 07:36 PM   #5
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Still have to make the weld on the oil pan but it is all mounted and test fit perfectly.
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That's a very nifty/interesting way of building the frankenpan.
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Old 12-04-2014, 05:04 PM   #7
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UPDATE??

great work man, can't wait to see it done.

p.s. hello from an iX'er from Grand Rapids
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Any pics of what you followed to splice the pans like that? Looks pretty slick!
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I will post some pics of the two halves separate next time I pull the motor out of the car. I pretty much chopped up a spare iX pan until I had a line I wanted to follow.

The project got delayed a bit. I lost the shop space I was working out of but ended up finding and renting another space. In the new space I am in the works of starting a euro specialists auto shop. I started making more progress on the car today tho!

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Part labeled #4 is normaly bolted straight to the throttle body and into the intake. With the way the motor sits in the car and without modifying the strut and unibody, I need to, instead of bolting #4 straight to the throttle body, attach it via silicone tubing located maybe 8" away. Will this effect the function of this part or give me runability issues?
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didnt realize that is for the traction control. dont even need it.
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